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Ari Phoenix · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject:

If that is how you are going to react, then I regret to inform you, but I will not remove it from the Cursed clans, because with out proof, I will not, and cannot give my consent to removing it, nor remove it, because if you do not have any true proof, Then I have no true motivation.
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evermember · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject:

i see nothing wrong
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Yasuo Amano · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject:

I still don't see why they need genjutsu immunity, aren't they already powerful enough??
And what does it matter if it doesn't stop kinjutsu? How many gen kinjutsu are there around? And how many people have them?
Hmm...Does anyone else think that gen immunity is too much or is it just me?
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Ari Phoenix · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:02 pm Post subject:

It is only an immunity to one type of Genjutsu, not all type, any good Genjutsu master will know more than one type, so yeah, you may have immunity to pain inducing Genjutsu for Wolves, but that doesn't mean squat if they are attacked by Sense based/Sigh based Genjutsu. Do you understand? You are not reading it all the way, it isn't just immunity, but limited Immunity.
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Yasuo Amano · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject:

No, I fully understand and I still believe it's unfair. Hmm, can you describe to me what an inhibiting genjutsu is?
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Ari Phoenix · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject:

That would be a genjutsu, that would make someone unable to move, such as this one that I was put through once, a long time ago, that restricted the movement of limbs. That would be an inhibiting technique.
If I looked, I could probably give you a list of Genjutsu that are inhibitors, but lets just say, any that freeze the opponent, or limit their ability to move or do anything, is an inhibitor Genjutsu.

Werewolf: Physical Pain
Vampire: Inhibiting Techniques
Banshee: Emotional Suffering
Reaver: Binding Techniques

Werewolves are strong against those that make you think your damaged, or causes pain.
Vampires can't be stopped by genjutsu that won't allow for movement
Banshee cannot be stopped by Emotional ones, such as those that make you fearful, or happy.
Reaver's can never be limited in their abilities by Genjutsu.
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Yasuo Amano · Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:53 am Post subject:

Hmm...Now that sounds a lot like a 'binding' genjutsu to me...In my opinion at the very least you should explain those better, change 'inhibiting' to something about 'limiting movement' and change the 'binding' for the reavers to...Something.
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Ari Phoenix · Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:54 am Post subject:

I didn't make this initially, all I have to say is that your worried about some immunity to one type of Genjutsu, when there are still many out there. Atleast it isn't like the Sharingan with almost full immunity. Plus do you even have a Genjutsuist? if not, then find one who can actually put this into perspective for you, your arguing against it doesn't help improve this app, it just suggests that you want them weakened. If you do, then I suggest you suggest ways to weaken them, with out making them weaker than some of the other clans.

I myself have never made a Genjutsu ninja before, so I have not the full knowledge of genjutsu needed to explain the immunity to you, I just have enough of an understanding to point out, that though it is listed as Genjutsu immunity, you can still hit them with other types of Genjutsu, plus there are tons of S-rank Kinjutsu Genjutsu, if you would look in the Clans, bloodlines, and Custom sections.

Now if you wish to continue this, I suggest you take this to PM, so that we can have some other people talk, I suggest you pm a genjutsu master, and then me or another staff member, since this is an open app, though any changes needs to be approved by me, since this is admin business.
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Kinzo · Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:48 am Post subject:

Well. I agree with Yasuo before he began compromising.... Though it is already known that I voice dissapprovement of genjutsu immunity of any kind, I think the limitations of the immunities should be defined better. First of all, they should only be able to be immune to the effects of their said immunity, not the technique in its entirety. This means if someone used ghostly torture on a werewolf, they would not be able to feel the pain being inflicted, however they would still inhibited by the limiting sight as well as be able to see the ghosts that rend at them. With that said, I reccomend changing the banshee immunity entirely, genjutsu cannot force an emotion on someone, they can only create illusions designed to harvest one response from a target, thus there is no such thing as a defense against emotional suffering =/. As for the reaver and vampire immunities, while their nature can be kept the same, they need to be better described. The reavers should say directly that they are subject to all effects of a genjutsu that do not cause paralyzation or limit their ability to walk/move. However, if a dream-state genjutsu is cast on them, they would still be rendered immobile IRL, but would be unable to eb rendered immobile within the dream state. For the vampires, i think you need to choose whether they will be immune to movement in the same way as the reavers, or whether they would be immune to genjutsu that directly weaken them, as Sench intended the immunity to be when he created it. What I mean by this is, if a genjutsu says it redirects the chakra away from a targets limbs, limiting their strength to 50% its normal amount, a vampire would be immune. The word "Inihibit" is too general, for all genjutsu inhibit, as no genjutsu besides tsukiyomi cna inflict death, they are ment to tire the opponent just enough to kill them by other means
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YuweaCurtis · Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:43 am Post subject:

Mmhmm, like how you got permission from Sench to do this? And people bitch about me being unorginal. Anyways, he should be messaging you on the topic of Reavers.

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